We Discovered the Best Way to Judge a QB in the Regular Season Part 2

This is the win record differential for many long term starters that came into the league in the early 2000s or at least became starters in the early 2000s.

Donovan McNabb

SeasonTeamRecordProjected+/-Context
1999PHI1-51.82-4.18-0.82had offensive minded coach Andy Reid for the whole time in the Eagles
2000PHI11-511.04-4.96-0.04TE Lewis made an all pro
2001PHI10-611.30-4.70-1.30TE Lewis and LT Thomas made a pro bowl
2002PHI7-35.99-4.011.01Lewis and RT Runyan made a pro bowl. Thomas made an all-pro
2003PHI12-49.65-6.352.354 gw drives. RB Westbrook emerged
2004PHI13-29.97-5.033.03Terrell Owens arrived and made an all-pro. Westbrook and Thomas made a pro bowl
2005PHI4-54.04-4.96-0.04got hurt later. Owens did not finish the season either.
2006PHI5-55.24-4.76-0.24Owens left. G Andrews made an all-pro
2007PHI8-68.10-5.90-0.10Westbrook made an all-pro. G Andrews made a pro bowl
2008PHI9-69.47-6.53-0.47WR Jackson drafted
2009PHI10-47.41-6.592.59yr 2 DeSean Jackson made a pro bowl, TE Celek and yr 2 WR Maclin emerged and RB McCoy drafted. LT Turner and G Runyan left but LT Peters arrived and made a pro bowl
2010WAS5-85.55-7.45-0.55WR Santana Moss and TE Cooley are productive
2011MIN1-52.31-3.69-1.31had offensive minded coach Mike Shanahan
career +/- is 0.32 PHI +/- is 0.54

Kurt Warner

SeasonTeamRecordProjected+/-Context
1994N/A0-00-00got cut
1995N/A0-00-00not in the NFL
1996N/A0-00-00not in the NFL
1997N/A0-00-00not in the NFL
1998STL0-00-00didn’t start
1999STL13-311.10-4.901.90great stats but 0 gw drives with a great defense. Pace made an all pro from 1999-2001. RB Faulk made an all -pro
2000STL8-32.72-8.285.28offensive minded head coach Dick Vermil is replaced by offensive minded head coach and former OC on the same team Mike Martz. had a couple of gw drives. RB Faulk made an all-pro this yr and next. WRs Bruce and Holt each made a pro bowl this yr and next.
2001STL14-29.34-6.664.66Timmerman made an all pro
2002STL0-62.95-3.05-2.95struggled, RB Marshall Faulk decline despite making a pro-bowl, and Warner had a hand injury. Pace made a pro bowl
2003STL0-10.39-0.61-0.39Pace and Holt makes an all-pro but Warner didn’t have the job anyway.
2004NYG5-45.37-3.63-0.37had offensive coach Tom Coughlin, RB Barber made a pro bowl
2005ARZ2-83.13-6.87-1.13WR Fitzgerald made a pro bowl and WR Boldin emerged
2006ARZ1-41.43-3.57-0.43Boldin made a pro bowl
2007ARZ5-63.19-7.811.81Offensive Head Coach Ken Whisenhunt arrived and replaced offensive minded coach Dennis Green. Fitzgerald made a pro bowl.
2008ARZ9-76.35-9.652.65Fitzgerald made an all pro this season and next. Boldin made a pro bowl
2009ARZ10-57.19-7.812.81
career +/- is 0.87 career +/- (1998-onward) is 1.15 STL +/- is 1.42 ARZ +/- is 1.14

Jake Delhomme

SeasonsTeamsRecordProjected+/-Context
1997NO0-00-00not in NFL
1998NO0-00-00no in NFL
1999NO1-10.42-1.580.58NFL Europe
2000NO0-00-00NFL Europe
2001NO0-00-00on the bench
2002NO0-00-00on the bench
2003CAR11-58.76-7.242.247 game winning drives. RB Davis made a pro bowl. WR Smith emerged.
2004CAR7-97.01-8.99-0.01RB Davis and WR Smith hurt almost the whole yr. Muhammad made an all-pro
2005CAR11-510.01-5.990.99WR Smith makes an all-pro
2006CAR7-66.63-6.370.37WR Smith made a pro bowl
2007CAR2-11.32-1.680.68offensive coordinator Davidson replaces Henning, Delhomme got hurt early in the yr
2008CAR12-47.86-8.144.145 game wining drives. WR Smith, T Gross, and RB Williams made all-pro
2009CAR4-74.03-6.97-0.03struggled despite C Kalili and RB Williams making pro bowls
2010CLE2-22.61-1.39-0.61struggled despite C Mack making a pro bowl and a T Thomas making an all-pro
2011HOU0-00-00bench
career +/- is 0.56 CAR +/- is 1.20

Matt Hasselbeck

YearTeamRecordProjected+/-Context
1999GB0-00-00on the bench this yr and next
2000GB0-00-00
2001SEA5-75.49-6.51-0.49had offensive minded head coach Holmgren the whole time in Seattle, RB Alexander was productive, LT Walter Jones made an all-pro
2002SEA5-54.05-5.960.96LT Jones made a pro bowl, WR Robinson and RB Alexander was productive
2003SEA10-67.61-8.392.39LT Jones and RB Alexander made a pro bowl, G Hutchinson made all-pro from 2003-2005 with Seattle
2004SEA7-75.29-8.711.710 game winning drives, LT Jones made all-pro from 2004-2008, RB Alexander made all-pro, WR Darrell Jackson was productive
2005SEA13-39.26-6.743.74RB Alexander won MVP, C Tobeck made a pro bowl, FB Strong made an all-pro, TE Jurevicius was productive
2006SEA7-55.35-6.651.654 game winning drives, G Hutchinson left, RB Alexander regressed, C Tobeck missed half of the season
2007SEA10-68.67-7.331.33WR Engram was very productive, C Tobeck retired
2008SEA1-61.74-5.26-0.74miss most of the season, RB Alexander left
2009SEA5-95.24-8.76-0.24only 1 game winning drive, LT Jones retired, defensive minded head coach Jim Mora Jr. replaces Holmgren, WR Houshmandzadeh was productive
2010SEA6-85.26-8.740.740 game winning drives, defensive head coach Pete Carroll replaced Mora Jr.
2011TEN9-78.29-7.710.71had head coach Munchak, WR Nate Washington and RB Johnson was productive
2012TEN2-31.16-3.840.84backup from now until 2015, RB Johnson was productive
2013IND0-00-00had defensive coach Pagano
2014IND0-00-00
2015IND5-33.80-4.211.21Chudzinski replaced Pep Hamilton as the OC, WR Hilton made a pro bowl
career +/- is 0.81 SEA +/- is 1.11

Chad Pennington

SeasonTeamRecordProjected+/-Context
2000NYJ0-00-00bench
2001NYJ0-00-00bench
2002NYJ8-47.22-4.780.78WR Coles emerged. Mawae made an all-pro. RB Martin productive this yr and next.
2003NYJ4-54.29-4.71-0.29got hurt later. WR Coles left but WR Santana Moss replaces him and is productive. C Mawae made a pro bowl
2004NYJ8-57.71-5.290.29Mawae and Martin both made an all-pro
2005NYJ1-21.28-1.72-0.28Heimerdinger replaces Paul Hackett as the offensive coordinator, got hurt later
2006NYJ10-69.28-6.720.72defensive head coach Mangini replaces defensive head coach Herm Edwards, Martin and Mawae left but C Mangold and LT Ferguson were drafted
2007NYJ1-73.03-4.97-2.03struggled, got benched
2008MIA11-58.27-6.732.73wildcat offense help, offensive minded head coach Tony Sparano arrived, RB Brown made a pro bowl. LT Jake Long made a pro bowl.
2009MIA0-30.87-2.13-0.87struggled despite pro bowl season from T Long, got benched early
2010MIA1-00.53-0.470.47
career +/- is 0.14 NYJ +/- is -0.10

Michael Vick

SeasonTeamRecordProjected+/-Context
2001ATL1-10.93-1.070.07primarily on the bench
2002ATL8-66.96-7.041.04
2003ATL3-11.73-2.271.27didn’t finish most of the season. TE Crumpler made a pro bowl
2004ATL11-47.71-7.293.29defensive minded head coach Jim Mora replaces Dan Reeves, led 4 gw drives. Crumpler made a pro bowl. Dunn was productive
2005ATL8-77.58-7.430.43Only 1 gw drive. Crumpler made a pro bowl
2006ATL7-97.88-8.12-0.88Crumpler made a pro bowl
2007ATL0-00-00-0suspended
2008ATL0-00-00-0suspended
2009ATL0-00-00-0didn’t start
2010PHI8-44.18-7.823.82improved passer with Offensive Head Coach Reid. LT Peters made all pro. WR Jackson made a pro bowl. WR Maclin and RB McCoy were productive.
2011PHI7-67.11-5.89-0.11regressed, 0 gw drives despite T Peters making all-pro and McCoy being an all-pro
2012PHI3-72.72-7.280.28Jackson regressed, Peters missed the season,
2013PHI2-41.70-4.300.30Offensive Head Coach Reid fired/Offensive Head Coach Chip Kelly hired. Peters, McCoy, and G Mathis made all- pro. Jackson made a pro bowl
2014NYJ1-21.19-1.82-0.19C Mangold made a pro bowl. Vick was a primary backup moving forward
2015PIT2-11.68-1.330.33WR Brown and G DeCastro made all-pro
career +/- is 0.64 career +/- (excl. susp.) is 0.74 ATL +/- is 0.65 PHI +/- is 0.86

Takeaway

Kurt Warner and Jake Delhomme had seasons spent in the Arena Football League and in NFL Europe. Those seasons are counted on their career charts because if they are left out, then it gives them an unfair advantage when calculating the averages for their career record differential, respectively. They were out of the league because they were deemed to not be good enough to be in the NFL at the time and to receive development elsewhere. If they were good enough to be in the league as backups or as starters, then those years would have been accounted for anyway, so they weren’t going to be awarded for having those years not counted for.

McNabb was basically slightly below average to average (even with Reid and good protection) when it came to performing relative to the wins an average quarterback would have. He was good around 2003-2004 and 2009 when he had very good, skill position players but showed he couldn’t have a higher peak (4.5+ wins above the average) or at least sustain it for multiple seasons (like in 2005 before getting hurt).

Warner basically had a few peaks with the Rams when Marshall Faulk was at his peak. Having very good receiving support and an offensive scheme were just compliments, since Warner was basically below average (relative to the wins an average quarterback would have gotten) when Faulk declined and when he went elsewhere. He performed 2–3 games above average when offensive-minded Ken Whisenhunt arrived in Arizona. His receiving support (albeit young) was only complimentary to his success, since he was average even with it before Whisenhunt arrived, albeit wide receiver Fitzgerald did also get better also.

When Delhomme and his offensive skill position players were healthy, he had some good seasons (2-4 wins above average), such as in 2003 and 2008. Some of his average years were met with injuries to him or his best player on offense (ex. Steve Smith). After 2008 (specifically the disastrous 2008 Divisional Round game), he was below average even with solid offensive support.

As a primary starter, Hasselbeck had defensive support that was decent as the average quarterback would have ranged from finishing a game under .500 and even a game above .500. His defenses were bad in his last couple of seasons in Seattle. Hasselbeck was basically average in Seattle until Shaun Alexander became an elite running back from 2003-2005. The better Alexander peaked, the higher Hasselbeck’s record differential became. He had around 2 to slightly over 3 wins above average during that 3-year stretch but never peaked higher.

Hasselbeck’s record differential slowly declined all the way to below average in the following seasons in Seattle when Alexander quickly regressed and eventually left the team. He finished just under a game above average in Tennessee when running back Chris Johnson was productive but not elite. He had a decent season, winning almost 2 games above average in 2015 when Chudzinski was the offensive coordinator in Indianapolis. Hasselbeck is productive when he has strong running back support. However, he only peaks at just being good but not great when he has an elite running back with star performances from other offensive players that help the running back. Otherwise, Hasselbeck is only just average at best when it comes to winning compared to the average quarterback in his situations.

Pennington alternated between healthy and unhealthy seasons, which hurt his win averages). When healthy, he was slightly below average to average despite having pretty solid offensive support. His one pretty good season was when the Dolphins utilize the Wild Cat offense for the first time when the league had no answers to it.

Vick was mostly slightly below average to barely above average (barely a game above the average QB in wins). Utilizing his dual threat abilities, he was good in 2004 but fell back to average in terms of wins with the same offensive star support. He was excellent to great in 2010 with added offensive support as he had a record differential of close to 4. However, he fell back to slightly below average/average whether the same offensive supporting cast was healthy (2011 and 2013) or unhealthy (2012).

Click here to read part 3 for more quarterback’s record differentials.

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